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A collaborative writing system based on democratic principles.
With paper we vote:
With Internet we can vote:
This is a revolution, breaking rules that go back to antic Greece. Rules that probably contribute to the feeling of awe one can resent when comes election day, but which also restrict our ability to participate in politics.
Now we can acquire three new freedoms: freedom of time, of place and of object. We can vote from our home, in the middle of the night and on the small issues that we care about.
There are consequences. For example if you can vote anytime, why not also change your vote if you so wish? If votes are permanent, why have dates and agendas, except for outside conditions?
If you can vote on any issue, then why not allow everybody to propose polls? No technical limitation limits that ability, but for our own capacity to follow all of them. And in fact their number growing, delegating your votes will become a required feature, allowing you to concentrate on the parts that interest you the most, while delegating your voice to someone you trust on other matters.
If you can vote from anywhere, then you can vote in front of anybody, this means vote selling is a possibility. It is not anti democratic, it’s a feature. A feature that, yes, could result into an oligarchy, it all depends on the value of our votes.
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You can use the system right now:
links to propose new sub elements
or 
buttons to vote against or for
an elementNo complex registration required, you can participate anonymously or just fill a pseudo (top right corner) in order to be differentiated. This pseudo can be password protected and email verified, or not. You choose.
I’m open to suggestions and follow closely everything said (every forum also being a mailing list, it’s easy to follow and answer to)!
Tell me what you think!
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Non-governmental organisations (NGOs) should be held more accountable for their actions
Keeping Civil Society on the Straight and Narrow
Moyiga Nduru (IPS)A few years ago, this IPS correspondent posed a question at a workshop in Johannesburg, South Africa, about whether non-governmental organisations (NGOs) should be held more accountable for their actions. Afterwards, the key speaker at the event pulled me aside, and issued a polite rebuke for my “dangerous question”.
The “dangerous question” has continued to crop up since then, however, reflecting a growing debate over standards of conduct within the humanitarian sector as it has assumed an ever more prominent role in public life. Civic groups are now being scrutinised over a range of issues — from accounting practices, to whether they are truly serving the needs of communities.
“It’s true that accountability is not being exercised to the extent that it should be. Quite a large number of civil society organisations and NGOs have no organically-evolved mandate from the citizens,” Ozias Tungwarara, director of the Johannesburg-based Open Society Institute, itself an NGO, told IPS.
Notes an anonymous posting on the website of the Southern African NGO Network: “Many NGOs are not practicing what they preach and a good example is the HIV/AIDS activists. Soon after conducting a workshop, they are already getting promiscuous. Is it the money that attracts them to the job or the need to be socialists that want to see change in the society?”
“Having worked for NGOs for almost four years, I can safely say that most of these NGOs just want funding and if not monitored, they convey it to their personal use,” added the writer.
http://www.ipsterraviva.net/tv/civicus2007/currentNew.aspx?new=854
All NGO and Government must be accountable, thus the need for structure. I believe it is impossible to develop accountable infrastructure without Hierarchy. Hierarchy is neither bad nor good, it is a system of organization. Those who hate hierarchy, are only looking at the label. HOW a hierarchy is developed, for what purpose and by whom is the issue. The PEOPLE must design the hierarchy so the “workers” follows the directions (structure) which the people desire and are accountable for that work which the People desire.
The same goes for government(s). The people must design the infrastructure (Constitution / Charter) and the "employee’s (elected or hired) must comply with the infrastructure. Regards, Bruce
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Logs of the #parlement channel on server irc.freenode.net
You can use this applet (it requires you to have java) or a tool like gaim
You are all welcome to join!
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This group was started with the goal of creating a network of different initiatives which reside on the TOP (Transparent Open Public) principles of political activities.
We hope that we will soon be able to share concepts, ideas and suggestions about the Internet as a media, OpenSource as a paradigm and Democracy as the ultimate goal.
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Hi there. I am very interested in this project but am having some problems assessing what it does and doesn’t do; I hope someone can explain how i get the tool up and running in order to assess its features.
More generally, I am interested in the web-moderated participative democracy. I am a politics student at an Irish university and interested in sponsoring a project at my college to develop an open source tool that delivers the above functionality. If there are other projects out there in this sphere that you feel are worth knowing about, then please share. Hopefully this can be the beginning of a productive exchange. Thanks and keep up the good work.
<steve@youknowwhoelselovesit.co.uk>
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Excellent updated site. The people are in power on top.
The Constitution has been improved. The Parliament and Executive are
subservient to the People.
This could be a good draft to build the EU Constitution on.
WP -—- WPCA
http://www.worldparliamentgov.net/
Please invite ALL to sign the petition and become citizens of the World. :>) Bruce
ps we need MILLIONS to sign before implementation is possible
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For a UN Parliament
This is a very important action, it petitions for a Peoples Parliament in the UN which would allow us PEOPLE to have a direct say in matters of the World. Please visit the site and sign the appeal by clicking the support appeal.
Please post this on your websites and email lists.
Campaign launched in April/May 2007
Between 21 April and 12 May 2007 the Campaign for the Establishment of a UN Parliamentary Assembly (UNPA) was launched at press conferences and public events in ten countries. 30 Members of Parliament and various representatives of civil society have participated to present the UNPA proposal and the Campaign’s appeal.
http://tinyurl.com/2lo724Appeal for a United Nations Parliamentary Assembly
The campaign’s appeal for a Parliamentary Assembly at the U.N. until today has been signed by 397 members of parliament, 57 non-governmental networks and organizations and further 628 individuals from 101 countries. http://tinyurl.com/2lqy82
Thanks, Bruce
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Writing the European Constitution and involving the people in the process of Europe’s integration.
A wiki is kept here
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Bonjour,
Sorry if it is not in english but i have already written that in french
Suite à l’appel de Cohn Bendit à créer une nouvelle façon de la politique ( europeecologie22mars.org/?cat=3 ) j’ai écris cette réflexion, il y a 1 semaine :
""""""""""" Afin d’éviter qu’un parti politique deviennent un parti de personnes avec ses conflits internes individuels ou corruptions. Il faut redonner le pouvoir au peuple (définition de la démocratie), c’est le seul moyen pour que la société participe plus à la vie politique, en se sentant concerné et écouté. Par contre, je vois un danger dans la “dictature” du peuple, c’est que l’opinion de la masse n’est pas forcément la meilleure. C’est là où on voit l’importance de la liberté de l’information et de l’éducation. C’est là aussi où on voit le danger du filtrage de l’internet, qui peut amener très facilement au contrôle de l’information par des intérêts favorables à une minorité/élite. L’internet est le moyen de communication le plus efficace et encore libre aujourd’hui. Ce moyen de communication doit servir à l’éducation et la mise en place de débats qui amènent à la réflexion.
Je suis convaincu des bénéfices de la philosophie des logiciels libres, ainsi que de la transparence et la liberté de l’information. Je pense que le principe des réseaux sociaux est le moyen le plus efficace de faire circuler l’information rapidement (cf. fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrés_de_séparation ).
Donc pour un parti/pays, il faudrait créer un outil dans la forme d’un logiciel libre. – qui sera un point de rencontre et d’échange par l’intermédiaire de forums – qui permettra la remonté d’information par le fonctionnement réseau social – qui pourra servir à effectuer des consultations, d’avis sur des projets – qui pourrait désigner des représentants/candidats par mérite et avis
Je verrais cet outil fonctionner à différentes échelles : – local : ville/village – régional – national – européen/international
Ainsi : – un maire pourrait utiliser cet outil pour faire passer des informations pratiques à ses habitants – un habitant pourrait proposer une idée d’amélioration pour la ville – un événement pourrait être organisé dans la région – une idée pourrait être un projet de loi si suffisamment de personnes sont intéressé – un projet de loi pourrait être soumis à un débat et avis – etc
Le problème de cet outil est qu’une personne peut créer plusieurs comptes pour manipuler un vote ou faire peser les débats dans un sens, il faudrait pouvoir exclure par vote/modérateur, en fonction de l’utilité des contributions de certains membres.
J’insiste sur le fait que cet outil doit être un logiciel libre (transparent) afin que nul ne puisse contester son fonctionnement et soit neutre par définition. Il devra être capable d’évoluer en fonction de la société, pour cela il doit être développé par une communauté ouverte à toute personne (principe même du logiciel libre). D’autre part cet outil pourra servir à gérer aussi bien un parti (qu’il soit UMP, PS ou autre), qu’une entreprise, une association ou un pays.
C’est un outil qui utilise la puissance du réseau internet au service de la société.
En continuant à s’inspirer des logiciels libres, je pense qu’on peut partir d’un logiciel de suivi de problème ( fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logiciel_de_suivi_de_problèmes ) et d’un wiki comme wikipedia pour faire avancer des projets de manière collaboratif, auquel on ajouterait les fonctions de réseaux sociaux, on adapterait les moyens de prise de décision et développerait la communication entre membres (salon, chat individuel, etc).
Je pense que pour chaque contribution, on puisse savoir quel membre, quand a t-il créé son profil, voir l’ensemble de ses contributions et l’adresse IP de chaque contribution afin qu’il y ait un autocontrôle par les autres membres et afin d’éviter les créations de compte à la chaîne par les lobby.
Donc en réponse à l’appelle du 22 mars, je lance l’appel à la création d’un outil libre de gestion d’idées au service de la société.
Peut-être faudrait il mettre ce texte sur un wiki pour que n’importe qui puisse ajouter sa réflexion, c’est un point de départ. Il faudrait un endroit pour condenser toute les réflexions dans un texte.
Je viens de découvrir ce site intéressant par son fonctionnement qui reprend ces principes, il pourrait être le point de départ de cet outil leparlement.org
Il faudrait rassembler toutes les personnes ayant des capacités à créer ou à réfléchir sur le fonctionnement de cet outil. """""
J’ai moi-même des compétences dans le développement logiciel donc je suis prêt à aider, mais je ne souhaite pas réinventer la roue donc je réfléchis si je peux pas partir de mediawiki, d’un bugtracker ou de votre site et de le faire évoluer. Mais avant de le faire évoluer il faudrait faire une réflexion sur le fonctionnement du point de vue de l’utilisateur, réfléchir à une interface facile à prendre en main ( ex: facebook ). etc
On pourrait utiliser cette outil pourrait mener la réflexion sur l’outil. Un peu un compilateur peut se compiler lui même. Quand on arrive à ce point c’est que l’outil commence à être mature pour d’autre projet…
Mon email : atrepp at almandra dot com
Toute autre personne intéresser par ce projet de société devraient former une communauté, …
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On the very front page! ;)
To which you can actually subscribe using the right hand side link. Then you would receive by mail all subsequent posts (if you have written your email in your identity box).
To a post you can respond on the web or through an email!
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The world-democracy-wiki
http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/WorldDemocracy/Parlement
Thanks for taking a look.
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Of course a large scale Direct Democracy relying on electrons is difficult to accept, due to one very valid reason: we can’t trust internet.
It is so easy to change rules, to break into servers, to subvert data. Can we ever use it for such an important things as politics?
There is a way, a simple one relying on three elements:
Anybody can setup a server that replicate the data of other servers.
When you cast a vote you sign it with your private key.
Anybody can setup electoral lists that contain public keys.
There you have it. Basic isn’t it? Of course it requires that all data is totally transparent, to the point it can be replicated among any number of server. No anonimity (in the basic and simplest setup).
pgp signatures being what they are, can not be subverted (nowadays and in the near future), thus the votes can take any path available to them. They can be cast from any server. But to be sure that one’s vote is not simply erased from that first node, it is recommended to check that it has been replicated to a few other ones. Or better, to send it directly to different servers.
There can be any number of participants, votes or issues, but at the end of the day the results are calculated using one electoral list and on one server. Everybody can check if thoses results are valid or not.
This doesn’t bring 100% security, no such thing can exist even in the physical world, but it can bring trust. An active trust, if you care about the issues, the process, the participants, you can supervise it and make sure it goes as it should. The more eyes, the more trust.
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Ahhh s’ace has directed me to an excellent article and in fact a website of
articles which fits my thinking.
I have long held that "university/collage do as much damage as good. Of
course there are things to learn such as electronic programming. However
much is taught as unchangeable fact which hinders any improvement or new
thinking.
What cha think?
Isn’t this new way what eParlement is after? New ways — networking new
ideas – help each other solve issues and problems – world wise?
This is why I think we need a “clearing house”. Perhaps irc will do it?
However it is only chance I find anyone on IRC. We need to introduce these
new ideas via irc forwarded to leparlement however so they are discussed and
become real methods which could be implemented. Of course each country needs
at the least Initiative and Binding Referendum to implement anything.
Somehow we need to carry on discussion about these “ideas” so they mature
and grow.
bruce
From: s’ace – human emergence votee <cjdegroot@wanadoo.nl>
Date: Jul 23, 2007 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Ideas
To: The Community of World Citizens <worldcit@googlegroups.com>
dear antonio,
by chance i found the not michael F1 schumacher in another article today …
because of this serendepitious incident i thought it might be to your convenience too:
http://www.wie.org/j11/schumca <http://www.wie.org/j11/schumcapra.asp> pra.asp <http://www.wie.org/j11/schumcapra.asp>
;-)
never hold on to the flexibility (Y)esteem !
s’ace
“isnt a state a word that hypnotises & dislinks our wished world from getting born (again)?”
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Bonjour,
Voici un exemple de site ayant les fonctionnalités d’un forum hiérarchisé et mettant en pratique plusieurs des points abordés:
Ce n’est donc qu’un début, avant d’arriver à un système qui englobe toute les fonctionnalités souhaitées dans le cadre d’un système TOP , mais ceci permet déjà un premier aperçu de quelques uns des éléments clés permettant un débat sans cacophonie car filtré, et démocratique car ce filtre n’est pas imposé de manière arbitraire mais modulé par chacun de manière totalement libre – et les notations résultent également de l’appréciation des utilisateurs.
Serge
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